<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks Tom for your message.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'm looking forward to hearing from David and Poncho too !<br>
</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">You have noted the longer cabin top on 1987 photo. I was surprised too, since the cabin of silver wings is shorter and, same as recent L-16, starts behind the mast, with two windows. <br>
</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Have a nice day !<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
Emmanuel<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/4/12 Thomas Rolfes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trrolfes@att.net" target="_blank">trrolfes@att.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Emmanuel:<br><br>An interesting challenge!!<br><br>By copying David Folger and Poncho Cole, I think you have probably reached people who have the best chance of helping you. There are people in the area on Mount Desert Island who have done considerable restorations, and there is at least one that is getting that kind of work done now, although I do not know if it falls in the realm of "planked" L-16s.<br>
<br>I do note that the cabin top is a bit larger on your vessel than I have seen among the L-16's in our area. In our boats, the cabin top does not begin until behind the mast step.<br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>Good luck,<br><br>Tom Rolfes<br>Fleet Captain<br>MDI Luders Association<br><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><font face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Emmanuel Jung <<a href="mailto:emmanuel@silver-wings.fr" target="_blank">emmanuel@silver-wings.fr</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:TRRolfes@att.net" target="_blank">TRRolfes@att.net</a>; <a href="mailto:L16-usa@l16.org" target="_blank">L16-usa@l16.org</a>; Lawrence DeMilner <<a href="mailto:demilner@downeast.net" target="_blank">demilner@downeast.net</a>>; Pancho Cole <<a href="mailto:panchocole@gmail.com" target="_blank">panchocole@gmail.com</a>>; David Folger <<a href="mailto:willowindfarm@gmail.com" target="_blank">willowindfarm@gmail.com</a>>; Janet Callow <<a href="mailto:Jcallow77@aol.com" target="_blank">Jcallow77@aol.com</a>>; Patti Rague <<a href="mailto:patti@raguestudio.com" target="_blank">patti@raguestudio.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:simpson@fieldmuseum.org" target="_blank">simpson@fieldmuseum.org</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thu, April 11, 2013 2:20:12 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: Request for info on 1937 Planked L16<br></font><br><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hello all,<br><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
I have sent a week ago an email on your "l-16 fleet list" but apparently it did not reach you. Bill Simpson, from Chicago, suggested that I contact you directly.<br> <br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
I am the new owner of a 1937 planked L-16, imported in France in 1938 "Siver Wings". According to Bob Wallstrom, she is likely to be Hull 421 - #13, and according to records most probably (one of) the last (possibly 4) planked L-16 still sailing... Have a look at her dedicated website : <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.silver-wings.fr" target="_blank">www.silver-wings.fr</a> <br>
<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I would highly appreciate if you share this information around you, and possibly share with me any information related with this pre-WW2 beautiful lady: plans (because I
would like to restore her according the original design), pictures, testimonies, ...<br> <br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Many thanks for your interest and contribution.<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
Best regards,<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Emmanuel<br>+33 6 71 22 49 51 <br> </div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.silver-wings.fr" target="_blank">www.silver-wings.fr</a><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"> <br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2013/4/11 William F. Simpson <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:wsimpson@fieldmuseum.org" target="_blank">wsimpson@fieldmuseum.org</a>></span><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<u></u> <div> Hi Emmanuel,<br> <br> Hmm, well it sounds like WE need to credit Bob! I'll copy Larry Weeks on this, and see what should be done. Thanks!<br> <br> Good luck with your research into planked L16s, we'd love to be included on what you find out!<br>
<br> Best,<br> Bill<br> <br> On 4/11/13 12:08 PM, Emmanuel Jung wrote: <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Bill, <br>
</div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks a lot for your prompt answer.<br> <br> </div>
<div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">OK, I'll write to Bob directly, you will get copy. <br> Actually, I do not believe I am the plagiarist, since I only report an <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.classicboat.co.uk/class-notes/lunders-16/" target="_blank">on-line article</a> from "Classic boats", mentioned on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.l16.org" target="_blank">www.l16.org</a>, which indeed copies Bob's article. In the meantime, I have modified my own description of the L-16, with reference to Bob's original article (I bought the Wooden Boats Magazine on-line PDF issue). <br>
<br> </div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Re. listserve, I guess it's OK now, since I've got an email form <font color="#000000" face="Arial">Nancy Broeckl<font>, in response to a
previous email. </font>"</font><font color="#000000" face="Arial">I'm glad to hear that you're still working on the book. Hope it comes out soon"<font>.<br> <br> </font></font></div>
<div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><font><font>I have sent a general email to the supposed "5 active fleets" <font>mentioned</font> on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://l16.org" target="_blank">l16.org</a>. Thanks fort the contact with t<font>he 2 really active ones. I email them immediate<font>ly. <br>
<br> </font></font></font></font></font></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><font><font><font><font><font>I<font> </font>try to register Silver-Wings on Wooden Boats Mag, I
keep you updates,<br> </font></font></font></font></font></font></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><font><font><font><font><font><font>Very best,</font><br>
</font></font></font></font></font></font></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><font><font><font><font><br> </font></font></font></font></font></div>
<div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"> <br> </div> </div> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">2013/4/11 William F. Simpson <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:wsimpson@fieldmuseum.org" target="_blank">wsimpson@fieldmuseum.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div> Hi Emmanuel,<br> <br> No, I guess you need to write Bob Wallstrom directly. Maybe a reminder email now and then if you don't hear from him. I think he's pretty busy, but he's a wonderful resource for L16s!<br>
<br> Concerning the plagiarism, why don't you just credit Bob on the website? I think that's all he's looking for.<br> <br> I've sent Larry Weeks (L16 #204, Wild Irish), who maintains our website, an email asking him to make sure you are added to our listserve. Are you getting messages from that listserve now?<br>
<br> There are two other active L16 Fleets in the US, a small one (about 4 or
5 boats) in San Diego, and a giant array of ~40 L16s in and around Mt. Desert Island in Maine. <br> <br> Here are folks to contact in Maine:<br> <br> Tom Rolfes:<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:TRRolfes@att.net" target="_blank"><TRRolfes@att.net></a><br> <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:L16-usa@l16.org" target="_blank"><L16-usa@l16.org></a><br>
</font>Lawrence DeMilner <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:demilner@downeast.net" target="_blank"><demilner@downeast.net></a><br> Pancho Cole <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:panchocole@gmail.com" target="_blank"><panchocole@gmail.com></a><br>
David
Folger <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:willowindfarm@gmail.com" target="_blank"><willowindfarm@gmail.com></a><br> <br> Here are folks to contact in San Diego:<br> <br> Janet Callow <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:Jcallow77@aol.com" target="_blank"><Jcallow77@aol.com></a><br>
Patti Rague <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:patti@raguestudio.com" target="_blank"><patti@raguestudio.com></a><br> <br> I don't think any of these fleets has planked L16s, but they may have some knowledge to share. <br>
<br> I wonder if contacting WoodenBoat Magazine would help as well? They have a Register of Wooden Boats, though I've never tried looking for planked L16s there.
You might want to add your boat to the Register! You can do it online, and it doesn't cost anything:<br> <br> <font color="#3333ff"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://rwb.woodenboat.com/rwb/index.php" target="_blank">http://rwb.woodenboat.com/rwb/index.php</a></font><br>
<br> You might also try emailing one of their researchers. I've corresponded with Pat Lown:<br> <br> <font color="#006600">"I am Pat Lown, research assistant, <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:pat.lown@woodenboat.com" target="_blank">pat.lown@woodenboat.com</a> or 207-359-4651. I work part-time, generally M-T-W. "</font><br>
<br> Let me know how you do!<br> <br> Best,<br> Bill<br> <br> <br>
<br> On 4/11/13 7:58 AM, Emmanuel Jung wrote: <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
Hello Bill,<br> </div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I wonder whether you got an answer from Bob ?<br> </div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
I'm also afraid that I might be the "plagiarist", what I did not intend to.<br> </div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
Also, I did not get any answer to my mails to other L-16 fleets, can you help ?<br> </div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
Thanks for your return,<br> </div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"> Best.<br> </div> </div> <div class="gmail_extra">
<br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">2013/4/5 William F. Simpson <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:wsimpson@fieldmuseum.org" target="_blank">wsimpson@fieldmuseum.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div> <font color="#ff0000">Welcome back, Bob!</font><br>
<br> <font color="#ff0000">I'm not clear on all your responses - look for my comments in red.</font><br>
<br> On 4/4/13 4:46 PM, Bob Wallstrrom wrote: <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-size:12pt">
<div><font style="background-color:rgb(0,255,0)">Greetings Bill Simpson and others. </font></div> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal">
<b></b> </div> </div> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal">
<font style="background-color:rgb(0,255,0)"><b>Hull 437 - L-16 #15</b> was delivered I n 1939 for a TW
Russell and <b>Hull 424 - L-16 #14</b> of 1937 for JW Weber Jr. and was the Luders Showboat at the 1937 NY Boatshow. It may not have been delivered until 1938 as the Hull Register seems to suggest.<b> Hull 421 - </b> <b>#13 </b>was for George Gould. <b>Hull 403 #12</b> was for Elihu Root of of unk. yr. <b>Hull 402 – L-16 #11</b> was for PS duPont of unk. yr.. That makes 15 total of that particular issue although I seem to recall that there
was one other that could not be attributed to Luders or any other yard for that matter. So it seems to me that #15 of 1937. Looks pretty good that Hull 424 is the right choice but I hope that there might have been some documentation that would support the solid appearing choice. </font></div>
</div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <font color="#ff0000">Hey, Bob, when was the first planked L16 delivered?</font><br>
<br> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-size:12pt"> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal">
</div> </div> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"><font size="+0">I am glad that someone finally contacted me for the information shown above so I could get the buyer’s name in the record. <br>
</font></div> </div> </div> </div>
</blockquote> <font color="#ff0000">You mean Emmanuel Jung's name?</font><br> <br> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr">
<div style="font-size:12pt"> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal">
<font size="+0"> Bill, I am very glad that you remembered my name. I could see from the material that accompanied the material that came with it that it’s too bad that my name was not with the camera that took the Luders image – I was standing along side of
Bill at that moment. </font></div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <font color="#ff0000">Which image are you talking about, Bob?</font><br>
<br> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-size:12pt"> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal">
<font size="+0">Also some one has plagiarized the copy from my article and should have given me credit for the words. O’well if they buy the
book when it’s done I will be rewarded. </font></div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote>
<font color="#ff0000">Which text is that, Bob? Hey, we're all friends here. List the text that you wrote, and I'm sure who ever used it on a website will cite you, or take it down!</font><br>
<br> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-size:12pt"> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal">
<font size="+0">By the way, that was the
second time today that image appeared here in my e-mail. </font></div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote>
<font color="#ff0000">Again, which image? Sorry to be so lost, but I want to understand what you're referring to!</font><br> <br>
<blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-size:12pt"> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal">
</div> </div> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"><font style="background-color:rgb(0,255,0)">As to the L-16 list, I never made </font><font style="background-color:rgb(0,255,0)">it there at all.and was too numb to not that I was not getting any L-16 news. I merely attributed it to the famed hurricane that did so much damage down south. can you put me back on? I’ll try to call you to tell the long story why. </font></div>
</div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <font color="#ff0000">LARRY WEEKS, can you make
sure Bob Wallstrom gets added to our listserve?</font><br> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"><br> </div>
<blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-size:12pt"> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal">
<font size="+0">With thanks and great to be again seeing those names from the past.</font></div> </div> </div>
</div> </blockquote> <font color="#ff0000">We're glad to have you
back, Bob. To be honest, you never really left, we've always considered you the "last word" on Luders Marine.<br> <br>
Hey, here's a trivia question: On the 1945 era bronze builder's plaques for L16s, "Lüders Marine Construction Company" is spelled with an umlaut: "Lüders". What's up with that? It's the only place I've seen Luders use an umlaut, but that's a pretty important place. One of the most permanent!</font><br>
<br> <font color="#ff0000">Best,<br> Bill</font><br> <br> <br> <blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-size:12pt"> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal">
</div> </div> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"><font size="+0">Cheers,</font></div>
</div> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"> </div> </div>
<div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"><font size="+0">Bob Wallstrom</font></div> </div>
<div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"><font size="+0">New POB is now <font size="5">213</font></font></div>
</div> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"><font>Brownfield, ME 04010</font></div>
</div> <div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"><font>207.935.4655
</font></div> </div> <div align="center"><font style="background-color:rgb(0,255,0)"> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal">
</div> </font></div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"> <div style="font:10pt tahoma">
<div style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(245,245,245)"> <div> </div> <div><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="wsimpson@fieldmuseum.org" href="mailto:wsimpson@fieldmuseum.org" target="_blank">William F.
Simpson</a> </div> <div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 04, 2013 4:18 PM</div> <div><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="emmanuel@silver-wings.fr" href="mailto:emmanuel@silver-wings.fr" target="_blank">Emmanuel Jung</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="lweeks@anabasis.net" href="mailto:lweeks@anabasis.net" target="_blank">Larry Weeks</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="l16-chicago@l16.org" href="mailto:l16-chicago@l16.org" target="_blank">The Chicago L-16 Fleet List</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="deltasurvey@fairpoint.net" href="mailto:deltasurvey@fairpoint.net" target="_blank">Bob Wallstrom</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="johnrlee@icanlearn.com" href="mailto:johnrlee@icanlearn.com" target="_blank">John Lee</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="voilesdantan@hotmail.fr" href="mailto:voilesdantan@hotmail.fr" target="_blank">AVAL Atelier des Voiles d'Antan du Léman</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: Request for info on 1931 Planked L16</div> </div> </div>
<div> </div> </div> <div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline;font-weight:normal"><font color="#ff0000">Hi Emmanuel!</font><br>
<br> On 4/4/13 2:51 PM, Emmanuel Jung wrote: <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div>
Thanks Bill for your quick and useful answer,<br> <br> </div> <div>For pics of the 1937 planked L16 "Silver Wings", vous can visit :<br>
</div> <div>- <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.silver-wings.fr" target="_blank">www.silver-wings.fr</a>, the site I have just started to build, <br>
</div> <div>- and also the Picasa album of all pics we've made : <font face="Tahoma"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://picasaweb.google.com/101668719610208364873/Luders163Mars2013?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCKvg5uOMv-jC6gE&feat=directlink" target="_blank">https://picasaweb.google.com/101668719610208364873/Luders163Mars2013?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCKvg5uOMv-jC6gE&feat=directlink</a><br>
<br> </font></div> <div><font face="Tahoma">I am very excited to hear that a sister ship might be still sailing. </font></div>
</div> </blockquote>
<font color="#ff0000">Well, that photo is from 1987! I don't know if the boat still exists, and if it does, which one it is. The owner's name was John Packard. I think I might be able to get you his 1987 address from the envelope he sent me the photo in...</font><br>
<blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div><font face="Tahoma">Thanks a lot for the photo ! It will be very useful for the coming restoration work ! (of course if you have other pics ...)</font></div>
</div> </blockquote> <font color="#ff0000">No, he only mailed me that one photo. But I think I found out about him from his ad in WoodenBoat. It might be worth checking out the 1986 and 1987 issues of WoodenBoat for an ad on this boat. John Packard lived in New York (but not NY city I think) at the time.</font><br>
<blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div><font face="Tahoma"> </font>Would you please possibly inform the owner I
am interested in having a direct contact ? <br> From the documentation collected from <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.l16.org" target="_blank">www.l16.org</a> and Wooden Boats Magazine, 3 out of the 14 planked hulls have not been destroyed by the september 1938 hurricane. So we already know about 2 of them. With the 15th hull built in 1939, there are still 4 possible candidates...<br>
</div> </div> </blockquote> <font color="#ff0000">Sounds
like a fun mystery!</font><br> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div><br> </div>
<div><font face="Tahoma">Also, can you please arrange that I can post on </font>the L16 listserve, I've just received today a message, telling that my subscription has been rejected ... Too bad.<br>
</div> </div> </blockquote> <font color="#ff0000">Actually, I rejected
your post. All it consisted of was your email address, no text, so I saw no reason to distribute it. Try again? Actually, Larry Weeks (Wild Irish, L16 #204) built this listserve. Larry, can you make sure Emmanuel gets successfully subscribed? I just help Larry filter out all the spam which gets posted to the list.</font><br>
<blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div><font face="Tahoma"><br> </font></div>
<div><font face="Tahoma">Thanks again, and
best regards.<br> </font></div> <div><font face="Tahoma"><br> </font></div>
<div><font style="font-size:10pt" face="Tahoma">Emmanuel<br> </font></div> </div> </blockquote>
<br> <font color="#ff0000">I look forward to hearing more from you!<br> <br> Best,<br>
Bill</font><br> <br> <br> <br> <blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr"> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">2013/4/4 William F. Simpson <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:wsimpson@fieldmuseum.org" target="_blank">wsimpson@fieldmuseum.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"> <div>Dear All, <br>
<br> See the email below <font color="#3333ff">(in blue)</font> from Emmanuel Jung who has
an original 1931 planked L16! I saw yesterday that he tried to post to our listserve, but it didn't go through. Then I got his email from John Lee. I'm also copying Bob Wallstrom on this, maybe he can help as well.<br>
<br> Emmanuel, we have plans for the hot-molded L16s on the L16 website, <br>
<br> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.l16.org/Library/" target="_blank">http://www.l16.org/Library/</a><br> <br>
but not the planked version. Luders Marine had a fire at some point, and many (all?) documents on site were lost. I'm hoping Bob Wallstrom knows of a source for you. If you're willing, please copy the L16 listserve on this topic, we'd all love to hear what you find out!<br>
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Best,<br> Bill<br> <br> p.s. When in 1987 I was looking to join the Chicago L16 Fleet, I corresponded with an owner from NY who had a planked L16 for sail. Here'a a pic! <font color="#ff0000">Emmanuel, send us all pics of your boat, will you?</font><br>
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<b><font color="#000099">Original 1931 Planked Luders 16</font></b><br> <br>
<br> <br> <font color="#3333ff"><br> From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Emmanuel Jung</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:emmanuel@silver-wings.fr" target="_blank">emmanuel@silver-wings.fr</a>></span><br>
Date: Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:45 AM<br> Subject: Planked Luders 16 b.1939<br>
To: <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:webmaster@l16.org" target="_blank">webmaster@l16.org</a>, <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:captain@l16.org" target="_blank">captain@l16.org</a>, <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:info@chicagoyachtclub.org" target="_blank">info@chicagoyachtclub.org</a>, <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:membership@fbyc.ca" target="_blank">membership@fbyc.ca</a>, <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:info@mdisailing.org" target="_blank">info@mdisailing.org</a>, <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:info@southernyachtclub.org" target="_blank">info@southernyachtclub.org</a>, <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:Commodore@whyc.org" target="_blank">Commodore@whyc.org</a><br>
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<div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font color="#3333ff">Dear
Sir, Madam,<br> </font></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
<font color="#3333ff">I have just discovered a planked Luders 16, built before 1939 by the Luders Marine Construction Cie, and imported in France by Fank "Jay" Gould to compete on the Lake Leman. She is very likely
the last planked L-16 still sailing. <br> </font></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
<font color="#3333ff">I would highly appreciate to learn more about the ship construction and have access to the original plans, in order to make the necessary restoration work
according to the original design. <br> </font></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">
<font color="#3333ff">I have sought information, including on the great Mystic Seaport website, but I was not able, unfortunately, to find relevant information. Would
you be aware of of any useful link or people to contact, please be so kind and let me know. <br>
</font></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font color="#3333ff">Thanks in advance for your answer,<br>
</font></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font color="#3333ff">With my best regards,<br>
<br> </font></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font color="#3333ff">Emmanuel Jung<br>
</font></div> <font color="#3333ff">L-16 Silver Wings<br> </font></div>
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